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Chris Moellering's avatar

I appreciate this series you are doing. This is the same problem as all the fake and mis-attributed quotes on the internet (and too often in print). When we, as Catholics, make unsubstantiated claims, we undermine the trustworthiness of our claims.

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Paul's avatar

Yes, raw data, but not just raw data. Clear reproducible methods with the data. Because raw data is often pretty useless by itself. It needs to be connected to some story: How was the sample prepared? What was measured? Under what conditions? In what settings?

If this is done well, which almost always means more than once or even twice, it gives room for other independent groups to try to tell the same story: get the same things together under the same conditions, analyzed the same way, to see if they get the same answer. And once they do, then they try something new, and we learn a little bit more about the world God made for us.

It's refreshing to see this standard clearly communicated, and to see Eucharistic miracles held to this standard. These kinds of miracles, I'd also include the Shroud of Turin, rarely if ever are investigated with the level of scientific rigor typically found in mainstream peer-reviewed publication (and many papers in the mainstream are also uneven in terms of the quality of the data, how well it was analyzed, what controls were used, etc.)

If people want to know the truth, the entire story matters. And if it's scientific truth, it's important that the story can be told the same way each time. If not, the story has to change.

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