Isn’t the whole point that God’s existence will *never* be proven (on earth)? That’s what faith is all about! The whole point is to believe because it is the Truth, not because it’s what you personally have decided makes sense, or what society thinks, or what can be detected by your 5 senses.
Really, it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Atheists and Catholics can both explain their points of view, but we will never come to a consensus because they will always be incompatible.
Catholic View:
God can never be disproven. If a prayer doesn’t work? It wasn’t part of God’s plan. If the Church is wrong? It was due to human error. If a question is unanswered? We weren’t meant to know, or our human brains simply can’t understand it. Every argument an atheist has can be explained away by Catholicism. And if it can’t, that’s just God testing you, so you should dive deeper into your faith.
Atheist View:
God can never be proven. The power of prayer cannot be quantified. The views of the church obviously follow human nature; a need for answers and control. None of the basic teachings can be backed up by science, only philosophy and anecdotes which are subjective. If a scientist is wrong, they (ideally) change their minds, they do not cling on harder to their beliefs. Therefore, there can never be an infallible, universal truth in the world of science.
I saw your X post, but I've been very busy with the start of school. Here is my attempt, in exactly 100 words.
We observe three things in the Universe. First, everything we observe is temporary and changing. There must be some kind of foundation that is the eternal and unchanging cause of it all. Second, the Universe is full of beauty, mathematical precision, and unfathomable design that the greatest human intellects struggle to understand. Third, we human animals have lofty desires for love, justice, and meaning that goes way beyond physical existence and animal life. These three things point to an all-powerful, eternal, unchanging, intelligent, and loving Creator who made humans in His image for the purpose of eternal life with Him.
Isn’t the whole point that God’s existence will *never* be proven (on earth)? That’s what faith is all about! The whole point is to believe because it is the Truth, not because it’s what you personally have decided makes sense, or what society thinks, or what can be detected by your 5 senses.
Really, it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Atheists and Catholics can both explain their points of view, but we will never come to a consensus because they will always be incompatible.
Catholic View:
God can never be disproven. If a prayer doesn’t work? It wasn’t part of God’s plan. If the Church is wrong? It was due to human error. If a question is unanswered? We weren’t meant to know, or our human brains simply can’t understand it. Every argument an atheist has can be explained away by Catholicism. And if it can’t, that’s just God testing you, so you should dive deeper into your faith.
Atheist View:
God can never be proven. The power of prayer cannot be quantified. The views of the church obviously follow human nature; a need for answers and control. None of the basic teachings can be backed up by science, only philosophy and anecdotes which are subjective. If a scientist is wrong, they (ideally) change their minds, they do not cling on harder to their beliefs. Therefore, there can never be an infallible, universal truth in the world of science.
I saw your X post, but I've been very busy with the start of school. Here is my attempt, in exactly 100 words.
We observe three things in the Universe. First, everything we observe is temporary and changing. There must be some kind of foundation that is the eternal and unchanging cause of it all. Second, the Universe is full of beauty, mathematical precision, and unfathomable design that the greatest human intellects struggle to understand. Third, we human animals have lofty desires for love, justice, and meaning that goes way beyond physical existence and animal life. These three things point to an all-powerful, eternal, unchanging, intelligent, and loving Creator who made humans in His image for the purpose of eternal life with Him.
Incompossible –Unable to exist if something else exists. Ambrose Bierce
(God is unable to exist in your doubt.)
Losing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. Ludwig Borne
It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. Thoreau
Anything you can imagine is real. Pablo Picasso (your imagination is on default)
Faith is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof. Khalil Gibran
All that we are is the result of what we have thought. Buddha
What is understood need not be discussed. Loren Adams (what I would say to an atheist.)